Directory talk:Gregory J. Kohs - Revision history

Nhprman: my suggestions and critiques

2008-01-25T06:06:46Z

my suggestions and critiques

Nhprman: when to call

2008-01-18T02:03:27Z

when to call

Snerfling at 01:58, 2 February 2007

2007-02-02T01:58:13Z

Garrett at 23:52, 1 February 2007

2007-02-01T23:52:15Z

Garrett: fundamental things

2007-02-01T23:45:22Z

fundamental things

MyWikiBiz: Moved this discussion to Directory_talk:MyWikiBiz

2006-12-04T02:16:56Z

Moved this discussion to Directory_talk:MyWikiBiz

Centiare at 20:30, 3 December 2006

2006-12-03T20:30:24Z

Centiare at 18:26, 3 December 2006

2006-12-03T18:26:20Z

Centiare at 16:50, 3 December 2006

2006-12-03T16:50:15Z

Centiare at 16:39, 3 December 2006

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 To conclude. I envision a facebook, wikipedia, business profile hybrid becoming a dominant force of the internet. Dominant = putting the kids through college, and of course a porsche 911 turbo with chrono package. I am an experienced wiki editor with 4 years investment experience ranging from unit investment trusts to exchange traded funds (and an IQ of 139). Getting in on the ground floor of something big would be beneficial for my dream of a house in the hills and a trophy wife. I'm here to help. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]] 15:45, 1 February 2007 (PST)
-:See my response at the [[Centiare:Water Cooler (proposals)|water cooler]]. [[User:Snerfling|Snerfling]] 17:58, 1 February 2007 (PST)
+:See my response at the [[Help:Water Cooler (proposals)|water cooler]]. [[User:Snerfling|Snerfling]] 17:58, 1 February 2007 (PST)
-==Call==
+==My suggestions and critiques==
-Gregory, It's me from Wikinfo. Let me know when I can call you (i.e. day and how late in the day.) I'm up until 11:30 each night (ET) but few others are, and I see you have kids, so, you may be one of those "early to bed" people. ;-) My email is my username, then at comcast dot net.- [[User:Nhprman|Nhprman]] 18:03, 17 January 2008 (PST)
+I had a great phone chat with Gregory a few days back and want to share a few of my own ideas here, and expand on the things about which we spoke.

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	:See my response at the [[Centiare:Water Cooler (proposals)\|water cooler]]. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 17:58, 1 February 2007 (PST)		:See my response at the [[Centiare:Water Cooler (proposals)\|water cooler]]. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 17:58, 1 February 2007 (PST)
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		+	==Call==
		+	Gregory, It's me from Wikinfo. Let me know when I can call you (i.e. day and how late in the day.) I'm up until 11:30 each night (ET) but few others are, and I see you have kids, so, you may be one of those "early to bed" people. ;-) My email is my username, then at comcast dot net.- [[User:Nhprman\|Nhprman]] 18:03, 17 January 2008 (PST)

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	To conclude. I envision a facebook, wikipedia, business profile hybrid becoming a dominant force of the internet. Dominant = putting the kids through college, and of course a porsche 911 turbo with chrono package. I am an experienced wiki editor with 4 years investment experience ranging from unit investment trusts to exchange traded funds (and an IQ of 139). Getting in on the ground floor of something big would be beneficial for my dream of a house in the hills and a trophy wife. I'm here to help. [[User:Garrett\|Garrett]] 15:45, 1 February 2007 (PST)		To conclude. I envision a facebook, wikipedia, business profile hybrid becoming a dominant force of the internet. Dominant = putting the kids through college, and of course a porsche 911 turbo with chrono package. I am an experienced wiki editor with 4 years investment experience ranging from unit investment trusts to exchange traded funds (and an IQ of 139). Getting in on the ground floor of something big would be beneficial for my dream of a house in the hills and a trophy wife. I'm here to help. [[User:Garrett\|Garrett]] 15:45, 1 February 2007 (PST)
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		+	:See my response at the [[Centiare:Water Cooler (proposals)\|water cooler]]. [[User:Snerfling\|Snerfling]] 17:58, 1 February 2007 (PST)

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 *(Again no offense) The internet is littered with the bodies of dead or mentally retarded wikis.    The winner (only wikipedia so far) and losers are seperated by a very fine line. Centaire is at a point were it will either exponentially increase or falter and become a blip on archive.org. I don't want to see blipage.
-*On to the fun stuff - Hard hitting financial questions (not to pry, just help) - Is this for-profit or non-profit? With the ads I'm assuming for profit. Servers are expensive. Hell, one image server can be 20K. Do you have venture capital supporting you? Angel investor or firm? When cash flow dries up everything dries up. At this stage centiare is still so small the servers are probably not too much of a problem but expand a few terabytes and its a different story.
+*On to the fun stuff - Hard hitting financial questions (not to pry, just help) - Is this for-profit or non-profit? With the ads I'm assuming for profit. Servers are expensive. Hell, one image server can be 20K. Do you have venture capital supporting you? Angel investor or firm? When cash flow dries up everything dries up. At this stage centiare is still so small the servers are probably not too much of a problem but expand a few terabytes and it's a different story.
-To conclude. I envision a facebook, wikipedia, business profile hybrid becoming a dominant force of the internet. Dominant = putting the kids through college, and of course a porsche 911 turbo with chrono package. I am an experienced wiki editor with 4 investment experience ranging from unit investment trusts to exchange traded funds (and an IQ of 139). Getting in on the ground floor of something big would be beneficial for my dream of a house in the hills and a trophy wife. I'm here to help. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]] 15:45, 1 February 2007 (PST)
+To conclude. I envision a facebook, wikipedia, business profile hybrid becoming a dominant force of the internet. Dominant = putting the kids through college, and of course a porsche 911 turbo with chrono package. I am an experienced wiki editor with 4 years investment experience ranging from unit investment trusts to exchange traded funds (and an IQ of 139). Getting in on the ground floor of something big would be beneficial for my dream of a house in the hills and a trophy wife. I'm here to help. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]] 15:45, 1 February 2007 (PST)

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	+	==Fundamental Questions/Anecdotes/Critiques==
	+	(This is also posted on the proposals page)

	+	I like this whole centaire thing. The general idea is solid. The businesses, personal pages, and places (BPP) to some extent are all tailor made for "the free directory" I personally beleive in the hive mentality to an extent but realize serious restrictions need to be placed so the hive doesn't implode.
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	+	*Everything besides BPP is found on wikipedia with a 5 year headstart and tens of millions of edits. I think a good policy for non-BPP is a brief two/three paragraph summary lifted from the opening section of a wikipedia article and cleaned up/sourced. (i.e. I am a boxer, In the future there will hopefully be thousands of other boxers, there should be a central page)
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	+	*Can you legally display copyrighted images without a fairuse tag?
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	+	*this site promotes the POV so here I go. You're business model is flawed. The Ads on centiare weaken the overall feel immensely putting the site danerously close to a geocite/xanga. Instead, go on attack of the show a few more times, get interviewed my a magazine. Once a base of 50,000 (just throwing out a number) members join charge 4.99 for a personal page and 19.99 for a business. You're selling this site, make it cool to have a page. Ipods are no better than roxio players but which one is cool? Exactly. Down the road I see Centiare:The <s> free </s> Directory
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	+	*(Again no offense) The internet is littered with the bodies of dead or mentally retarded wikis. The winner (only wikipedia so far) and losers are seperated by a very fine line. Centaire is at a point were it will either exponentially increase or falter and become a blip on archive.org. I don't want to see blipage.
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	+	*On to the fun stuff - Hard hitting financial questions (not to pry, just help) - Is this for-profit or non-profit? With the ads I'm assuming for profit. Servers are expensive. Hell, one image server can be 20K. Do you have venture capital supporting you? Angel investor or firm? When cash flow dries up everything dries up. At this stage centiare is still so small the servers are probably not too much of a problem but expand a few terabytes and its a different story.
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	+	To conclude. I envision a facebook, wikipedia, business profile hybrid becoming a dominant force of the internet. Dominant = putting the kids through college, and of course a porsche 911 turbo with chrono package. I am an experienced wiki editor with 4 investment experience ranging from unit investment trusts to exchange traded funds (and an IQ of 139). Getting in on the ground floor of something big would be beneficial for my dream of a house in the hills and a trophy wife. I'm here to help. [[User:Garrett\|Garrett]] 15:45, 1 February 2007 (PST)

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−	The residence link in the infobox_person was missing - the template wasn't as well constructed as infobox_company. I went through the template and tuned it up + made a few modifications. Let me know what you think.

−	~~If you'd like, feel free to create new attributes for birth_date, birth_place, death_death and death_place. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:32, 3 December 2006 (PST)~~
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−	~~: I ended up creating these attributes for [[Directory:Carl Sagan\|Carl Sagan]]. Feel free to update your site using the respective attributes.~~
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−	: Note: the first birthday/deathday reference includes month/day -> we want that reference style so that days are sub-pages of months (for almanac reports eg births, deaths, etc). However, to search specific attributes, month & day have to be treated separately. That's why the last category 'reference' is used as a placeholder to record specific values. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 12:30, 3 December 2006 (PST)
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−	~~==Edit notes==~~
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−	You'll notice that the {{flagicon\|US}} is placed after locations in infobox_person (instead of before as in _company). That's because birth location is below birth date - the flag looked weird hanging out in the open. Play around with the placement if you'd like. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:39, 3 December 2006 (PST)
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−	~~==Legal notes==~~
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−	Note that persons within Directory listings using infobox_person should provide contact & reference information. That because even if they're dead, by definition, if they're within the Directory namespace, that means they have commercial value; ergo there should be contact info + reference information.
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−	For example, [[Directory:Carl Sagan\|Carl Sagan]] has a link to his estate that generates licensing revenue from his name/works/image. OTOH, Newton is public domain, so he shouldn't be listed under Directory - rather, he should be included within Main page articles.
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−	I guess we (interested?) could create another infobox_person for Main page entries - ie no longer any commercial rights. There's a lot of stuff in infobox_person that could be cleaned up/removed to create a new version for non-commercial public figures. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 12:30, 3 December 2006 (PST)

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 : I ended up creating these attributes for [[Directory:Carl Sagan|Carl Sagan]]. Feel free to update your site using the respective attributes.
-: Note: the first birthday/deathday reference includes month/day -> we want that reference style so that days are sub-pages of months (for almanac reports eg births, deaths, etc). However, to search specific attributes, month & day have to be treated separately. That's why the last category 'reference' is used as a placeholder to record specific values.
+: Note: the first birthday/deathday reference includes month/day -> we want that reference style so that days are sub-pages of months (for almanac reports eg births, deaths, etc). However, to search specific attributes, month & day have to be treated separately. That's why the last category 'reference' is used as a placeholder to record specific values. [[User:Centiare|Centiare]] 12:30, 3 December 2006 (PST)
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 For example, [[Directory:Carl Sagan|Carl Sagan]] has a link to his estate that generates licensing revenue from his name/works/image. OTOH, Newton is public domain, so he shouldn't be listed under Directory - rather, he should be included within Main page articles.
-I guess we (interested?) could create another infobox_person for Main page entries - ie no longer any commercial rights. There's a lot of stuff in infobox_person that could be cleaned up/removed to create a new version for non-commercial public figures.
+I guess we (interested?) could create another infobox_person for Main page entries - ie no longer any commercial rights. There's a lot of stuff in infobox_person that could be cleaned up/removed to create a new version for non-commercial public figures. [[User:Centiare|Centiare]] 12:30, 3 December 2006 (PST)

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	If you'd like, feel free to create new attributes for birth_date, birth_place, death_death and death_place. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:32, 3 December 2006 (PST)		If you'd like, feel free to create new attributes for birth_date, birth_place, death_death and death_place. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:32, 3 December 2006 (PST)
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		+	: I ended up creating these attributes for [[Directory:Carl Sagan\|Carl Sagan]]. Feel free to update your site using the respective attributes.
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		+	: Note: the first birthday/deathday reference includes month/day -> we want that reference style so that days are sub-pages of months (for almanac reports eg births, deaths, etc). However, to search specific attributes, month & day have to be treated separately. That's why the last category 'reference' is used as a placeholder to record specific values.

	==Edit notes==		==Edit notes==

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	You'll notice that the {{flagicon\|US}} is placed after locations in infobox_person (instead of before as in _company). That's because birth location is below birth date - the flag looked weird hanging out in the open. Play around with the placement if you'd like. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:39, 3 December 2006 (PST)		You'll notice that the {{flagicon\|US}} is placed after locations in infobox_person (instead of before as in _company). That's because birth location is below birth date - the flag looked weird hanging out in the open. Play around with the placement if you'd like. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:39, 3 December 2006 (PST)
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		+	==Legal notes==
		+
		+	Note that persons within Directory listings using infobox_person should provide contact & reference information. That because even if they're dead, by definition, if they're within the Directory namespace, that means they have commercial value; ergo there should be contact info + reference information.
		+
		+	For example, [[Directory:Carl Sagan\|Carl Sagan]] has a link to his estate that generates licensing revenue from his name/works/image. OTOH, Newton is public domain, so he shouldn't be listed under Directory - rather, he should be included within Main page articles.
		+
		+	I guess we (interested?) could create another infobox_person for Main page entries - ie no longer any commercial rights. There's a lot of stuff in infobox_person that could be cleaned up/removed to create a new version for non-commercial public figures.

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	If you'd like, feel free to create new attributes for birth_date, birth_place, death_death and death_place. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:32, 3 December 2006 (PST)		If you'd like, feel free to create new attributes for birth_date, birth_place, death_death and death_place. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:32, 3 December 2006 (PST)
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		+	==Edit notes==
		+
		+	You'll notice that the {{flagicon\|US}} is placed after locations in infobox_person (instead of before as in _company). That's because birth location is below birth date - the flag looked weird hanging out in the open. Play around with the placement if you'd like. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:39, 3 December 2006 (PST)