User talk:Centiare - Revision history

MyWikiBiz: /* What Links Here */ This was meant to be 100% a joke about Wikipedia culture!

2007-01-16T18:19:42Z

What Links Here: This was meant to be 100% a joke about Wikipedia culture!

MyWikiBiz: /* Tag Policy */ My response.

2007-01-16T18:16:39Z

Tag Policy: My response.

MyWikiBiz: /* What Links Here */ ...Our "Memories of Wikipedia" moment...

2007-01-16T17:59:51Z

What Links Here: ...Our "Memories of Wikipedia" moment...

Centiare: /* What Links Here */

2007-01-16T16:11:39Z

What Links Here

OmniMediaGroup: /* What Links Here */ 2 cents

2007-01-16T15:39:42Z

What Links Here: 2 cents

MyWikiBiz: /* What Links Here */ Internal links

2007-01-16T13:55:11Z

What Links Here: Internal links

MyWikiBiz: /* What Links Here */ The other way around, though...

2007-01-16T03:21:44Z

What Links Here: The other way around, though...

Centiare: /* ASK */

2007-01-15T22:48:13Z

ASK

MyWikiBiz: /* ASK */ ASK query not affecting "What links here"?

2007-01-15T18:22:37Z

ASK: ASK query not affecting "What links here"?

Centiare: /* State Relations */

2007-01-15T16:18:57Z

State Relations

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	If all of this happens then one backlink at Centiare is golden.--[[User:OmniMediaGroup\|OmniMediaGroup]] 07:39, 16 January 2007 (PST)		If all of this happens then one backlink at Centiare is golden.--[[User:OmniMediaGroup\|OmniMediaGroup]] 07:39, 16 January 2007 (PST)

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	:Nobody asked you your opinion, Omni. If you continue to butt in on our Talk page discussions, we will ban your account. We are trying to build a directory, here. ...Oh. Wait. '''Sorry'''. This isn't Wikipedia, is it? ;-) --[[User:MyWikiBiz\|MyWikiBiz]] 09:59, 16 January 2007 (PST)		:Nobody asked you your opinion, Omni. If you continue to butt in on our Talk page discussions, we will ban your account. We are trying to build a directory, here. ...Oh. Wait. '''Sorry'''. This isn't Wikipedia, is it? ;-) --[[User:MyWikiBiz\|MyWikiBiz]] 09:59, 16 January 2007 (PST)

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	::One last thing: for user->directory 'owner of' or directory->directory 'manager of' tags, these "private" areas are outside our concern (to the extent they don't violate copyright/libel), so if they want to mirror tag their entries, more power to them. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:11, 16 January 2007 (PST)		::One last thing: for user->directory 'owner of' or directory->directory 'manager of' tags, these "private" areas are outside our concern (to the extent they don't violate copyright/libel), so if they want to mirror tag their entries, more power to them. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 08:11, 16 January 2007 (PST)
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		+	:::Phew! That was a mouthful, Karl; but all worthwhile. I have just a few bullet-point replies:
		+	:::* My apologies for taking away "one side" of some of the two-way relations yesterday.
		+	:::* I think tags should go on the Main Space article side.
		+	:::* I'm starting to agree with OmniMediaGuide, that we don't really know what's going on with Google, so our internal linking policy should not be predicated on that riddle.
		+	:::* We need to divorce ourselves from the notion that ASK queries don't update unless the page is edited. I'm seeing all over the place, lately, that they '''DO update themselves'''. For example, the ASK query on [[Portal:Manufacturing]] was last updated December 8th; but it includes listings of Nanoventions and SuperbGreece, which didn't come into being until January. Granted, there's some kind of delay in how long it takes for qualified results to "show" themselves, but there's no denying that these queries do eventually crawl for more results and refresh themselves. Maybe it's deep within MediaWiki, that it spiders the site's ASK queries once a day or something.
		+	:::* The ASK query on the [[Cigarette]] article is sort of how I envisioned our "power users" would start modifying the Main Space. It's not pretty. And, it might encourage long "laundry lists" of different ASK queries appearing on the same page. But, I think if our "policy" remains: "'''Main Space is community edited content'''", then people who INSERT such queries have to realize the next person who finds it too ugly or too self-serving can just delete it.
		+	:::* If you recall, one idea I had for "controlling" this proliferation of ASK queries was to establish a two-part policy:
		+	::::# An ASK query in Main Space must be relevant and useful to the article.
		+	::::# An ASK query in Main Space must produce at least 3 results; otherwise, create more content or wait for such content to be created.
		+	:::This would help to keep Main Space looking cleaner, and when ASK queries DO get installed by users, they'll actually be serving a "collective" need, and not just self-serving one person's Directory bias.
		+	:::I think that's all I have to say now. Calling Karl. --[[User:MyWikiBiz\|MyWikiBiz]] 10:16, 16 January 2007 (PST)

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 * a successful semantic mediawiki
 If all of this happens then one backlink at Centiare is golden.--[[User:OmniMediaGroup|OmniMediaGroup]] 07:39, 16 January 2007 (PST)
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 * a successful semantic mediawiki
 If all of this happens then one backlink at Centiare is golden.--[[User:OmniMediaGroup|OmniMediaGroup]] 07:39, 16 January 2007 (PST)
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 ::I see that, and that's good.  What I'm saying is that it doesn't seem to "go the other way".  That is, when you're considering the articles that APPEAR in an ASK result, when you check "What links here" to the article, the page with the ASK form doesn't register.  It's not the end of the world, but it just makes it more of a challenge for the "custodian/manager/advocate" of [[Directory:Pinnacle Realty Services|Pinnacle Realty]] to get some good cross-links INTO his Directory page.  (See how I just squeezed in another link to Pinnacle?  I'm shameless.)  --[[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 19:21, 15 January 2007 (PST)
 ::For the sake of internal link promotion, I think we should just encourage users to add an "Internal Links" section to Main Space articles that they want to link back to their Directory pitches. --[[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 05:55, 16 January 2007 (PST)
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	::I see that, and that's good. What I'm saying is that it doesn't seem to "go the other way". That is, when you're considering the articles that APPEAR in an ASK result, when you check "What links here" to the article, the page with the ASK form doesn't register. It's not the end of the world, but it just makes it more of a challenge for the "custodian/manager/advocate" of [[Directory:Pinnacle Realty Services\|Pinnacle Realty]] to get some good cross-links INTO his Directory page. (See how I just squeezed in another link to Pinnacle? I'm shameless.) --[[User:MyWikiBiz\|MyWikiBiz]] 19:21, 15 January 2007 (PST)		::I see that, and that's good. What I'm saying is that it doesn't seem to "go the other way". That is, when you're considering the articles that APPEAR in an ASK result, when you check "What links here" to the article, the page with the ASK form doesn't register. It's not the end of the world, but it just makes it more of a challenge for the "custodian/manager/advocate" of [[Directory:Pinnacle Realty Services\|Pinnacle Realty]] to get some good cross-links INTO his Directory page. (See how I just squeezed in another link to Pinnacle? I'm shameless.) --[[User:MyWikiBiz\|MyWikiBiz]] 19:21, 15 January 2007 (PST)
		+	::For the sake of internal link promotion, I think we should just encourage users to add an "Internal Links" section to Main Space articles that they want to link back to their Directory pitches. --[[User:MyWikiBiz\|MyWikiBiz]] 05:55, 16 January 2007 (PST)

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	:No idea. If you check [[Relation:Located_In\|this ASK report]], all the links from the query show up in ''what links here''. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 14:48, 15 January 2007 (PST)		:No idea. If you check [[Relation:Located_In\|this ASK report]], all the links from the query show up in ''what links here''. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 14:48, 15 January 2007 (PST)
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		+	::I see that, and that's good. What I'm saying is that it doesn't seem to "go the other way". That is, when you're considering the articles that APPEAR in an ASK result, when you check "What links here" to the article, the page with the ASK form doesn't register. It's not the end of the world, but it just makes it more of a challenge for the "custodian/manager/advocate" of [[Directory:Pinnacle Realty Services\|Pinnacle Realty]] to get some good cross-links INTO his Directory page. (See how I just squeezed in another link to Pinnacle? I'm shameless.) --[[User:MyWikiBiz\|MyWikiBiz]] 19:21, 15 January 2007 (PST)

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 :::Sorry about that. I had looked under NAICS 81 which had 'company_name' within the ASK query. The general Portal query just needed to be re-cached ie edit/save. Btw, I took out 'genre' in both the NPO & company infoboxes; it's probably how WP was trying to deal with industry types. Your religion tag was just duplicating the NAICS title. [[User:Centiare|Centiare]] 10:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)
 Karl, why do you imagine that the result of the ASK query in [http://www.centiare.com/Portal:Real_Estate_and_Rental_and_Leasing Portal:Real Estate] does not automatically show up in the "What links here" for [http://www.centiare.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Directory%3APinnacle_Realty_Services What links here for Pinnacle]?
 Don't get all sidetracked with this, but it makes me wonder. Does the ASK query fail to impact the "What links here" feature? --[[User:MyWikiBiz|Centiare Co-Developer]] 10:22, 15 January 2007 (PST)
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	:::Sorry about that. I had looked under NAICS 81 which had 'company_name' within the ASK query. The general Portal query just needed to be re-cached ie edit/save. Btw, I took out 'genre' in both the NPO & company infoboxes; it's probably how WP was trying to deal with industry types. Your religion tag was just duplicating the NAICS title. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 10:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)		:::Sorry about that. I had looked under NAICS 81 which had 'company_name' within the ASK query. The general Portal query just needed to be re-cached ie edit/save. Btw, I took out 'genre' in both the NPO & company infoboxes; it's probably how WP was trying to deal with industry types. Your religion tag was just duplicating the NAICS title. [[User:Centiare\|Centiare]] 10:09, 14 December 2006 (PST)
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		+	Karl, why do you imagine that the result of the ASK query in [http://www.centiare.com/Portal:Real_Estate_and_Rental_and_Leasing Portal:Real Estate] does not automatically show up in the "What links here" for [http://www.centiare.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Directory%3APinnacle_Realty_Services What links here for Pinnacle]?
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		+	Don't get all sidetracked with this, but it makes me wonder. Does the ASK query fail to impact the "What links here" feature? --[[User:MyWikiBiz\|Centiare Co-Developer]] 10:22, 15 January 2007 (PST)

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 I've noticed that you have (are making) some Relation tag changes. Let me know when they are "set in stone" and I'll work on the rest of the United States. Thought it would be good practice for me before the KJ Kitchens project.--[[User:OmniMediaGroup|OmniMediaGroup]] 07:44, 15 January 2007 (PST)
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